Very interesting movie I thought. I don't know what the big deal is about being who you really are. I thought Bre was a lady all the way except for whats in her pants. She was a very caring, lovable and sensitive person like most mother's do. She cared very much for the boy and she wasn't trying to hurt anyone. I think she was very determined to go through with the surgery that she neglected to handle her relationship with her/his son first. He had his problems with his sexuality also. He was sexually abused at a young age and was struggling with it. He turned to drugs and alcohol and was never able to handle and or control his sexual desires. Later on in the show he was doing pornography and getting paid. Bre was OK with it. Immediately after the surgery I think its when she finally realized that she should have been there for her son from the beginning rather than being so consumed with her own situation and left him alone. Thing happen in our lives and don't usually handle it the right way at first until someone lets us know. Sometimes a little reminder wont hurt anyone. We shouldn't be so quick to judge but rather try to understand and a be good listener as well. Bre's family were a little weired also. Father was probably the most sane one of the bunch. Mother was off the wall and didn't give Bre a chance. The sister in the other hand had her own problems that she was dealing with. They were all excited to know about Toby and having a grandson in their lives.
I am sorry for my ignorance, but I used to think that transgender and gay (homosexual) are the same type of issue. Now I know that Transgender is a general term applied to a variety of individuals, behaviors, and groups involving tendencies that diverge from the normative gender role (woman or man) commonly, but not always, assigned at birth, as well as the role traditionally held by society. Transgender is the state of one's "gender identity (self-identification as woman, man, or neither) not matching ones "assigned sex" (identification by others as male or female based on physical/genetic sex). And that Gay refers to attraction or sexual behavior between people of the same sex, or to a sexual orientation. I feel that everyone transgender, gay or straight no matter has the right to be who they are, and none of us are perfect enough to judge others on that kind of decision.
TransAmerica: Before seeing the movie, I'd heard of it before and I was always curious to watch it because I'd heard many good reviews about it. I found out that the actress that was playing BRE is actually a woman. It's funny to say this, but she plays a good transgender woman. The movie itself was very entertaining, uncomfortable in some parts but entertaining overall.
The thing that I liked the most about the film was that it delivered a great message, Acceptance. BRE and her son and as well as her family learned to accept each others lifestyles. And that's a message anyone can learn from this film. We need to learn how to accept individuals for who they are and not judge them for their beliefs, race, gender, and sexuality. You don't have to agree with their beliefs but learne to accept their different way of being.
About 5 years or more ago, We didn't really hear much about individuals who were transgender. I like the fact that we are evolving into a more informed society. Knowing about issues that we didn't know much about before. It's good to be informed and understand different lifestyles.
I think that after watching the movie that I understand the term transgender allot more clearly now. Before the movie I thought that they where freaks of nature. Shows how much I knew. After being educated I realize that not only can they be just normal people but they are more common they we might think. I also think that some of the controversy we disguised before the movie where legitimate but I would like to make a comment on the point. People where comment on how we should let children grow up before we choose what sex they should be. My question is what you tell people that want to know if it is a girl or a boy. Another question is the name do you have to pick a neutral name or do you want your little girl’s birth certificate to say tom or bill.
Trans America very good movie overall. i can honestly recommend this movie to people for the reason i learned a lot in this film, it teaches acceptance and it defenatlly taught me a big lesson. i always thought that transexual people needed help mentally, thats probebly because the only time i have been around a trans was when i use to work at smiths marketplace and an older male dressed like a female would always come to the store just to go to the bathroom, later the store directer found out that we did actuallt need mental help. Not everyone is the same though, i always looked at transexual people on the street of mexico and think they were weird. In the movie it shows to accept anybody for who they are and what they think.
Responsibility was another topic discussed after the movie, the responibility of your actions is also important or else you would look back to the problem and say "i fucked up" especially in the case of a child.
With this film to me the main controversial aspect is the fact that you have to get a surgery to become the sex you want. Or that if you were born with both sexes that a surgery will take place to bring you back down to being of only one outward gender. I don't think parents should be aloud to tell a doctor to cut off some part of a child's body unless that part is something deathly ill.
Parents every day in our country have their doctors cut the skin off of boy's penis's for circumcision. Why because its the normal thing to do. Screw that I didn't get a say in whether or not I got a piece of me cut off. I wish my parents would of left that shit alone I mean perhaps sex could be better than It is if I still had it but I will never know because my parents let me just get butchered.
Sure my dick fits the profile of normality but that is some weird shit to find normal. It all comes down to conformity. The controversy exists because we all want to fit in and we think its weird when someone else is different. If your born a man and don't feel like a man and want to cut your dick off, to me your crazy but that's probably because I like having a dick. People should definitely be able to choose who they are and so if a man or women wants to be the opposite of what they were born or didn't get the choice because their parents hacked off or sowed up what they really should of been then they should totally be able to go back to what they want.
We all have differences but our biggest problem is just getting over the differences of others. Which as a nation and a world its a problem that's still kicking our ass.
This is another issue I don't care too much for, I always find these types of movies to be very boring and predictable. The main character is usually in pursuit of his or her own self-centered, narrow-minded agenda. When they introduce the antagonist with his own narrow-minded, self-centered goals. This leads to all kinds of shenanigans and eventually culminates in a climax where their self-centered, narrow-minded ideas come to a head and everyone is forced into either learning or running. In this particular movie we get to see both. Personal identity is a strange concept that I think we all have a little trouble with at one point or another. Usually when problems with identity come up some therapy or even just talking with friends can help. It would be something entirely different if a peaceful existence would require some sort of major cosmetic change.
The class as a whole has been leading up to this main theme of acceptance. I think the general theme of the class was to accept people for who they are, we all have our differences, weather they be belief, life style, race, politics, passion, or sexuality. At the beginning of the class I think many of us were close-minded and not accepting of others on many of these topics, whether we want to admit it or not. I see a change in myself and also notice a difference in our debates in class and our postings. This movie summed up the lesson of acceptance very well, and I would guess that most of us would think twice about judging someone that is transgender or different than us in any other way.
This movie was very interesting. It has been on my mind since I saw it. My heart aches for the poor boy that was abused by his step dad and how he has learned to deal with it. I literally got nauseous when he met the guy in the bathroom and hooked up in the car. To see a 17 yr old boy doing that kind of thing is soooo wrong!
Im opinion is very different than my religions and my parents. I feel that anyone who unhappy with the way they look has the right to change it if it will honestly make them happier. Its much better than the alternative... suicide. My opinion to my parents suggests that God made a mistake. I don't believe that He makes mistakes but he makes people who they are for a reason and gives us all trials. I appreciate Sara's commment of people on both sides of the spectrum and how there has to be people in the middle. It is an interesting concept and further adds to my "in progress" opinion.
I liked how the movie ended with the ultimate moral of acceptance. I think that is what I need to definitely work on with a lot of what we have dicussed in this course.... So thank you Sara for broadening my range of thinking and being more open to different kinds of people and their lifestyles.
I liked this movie. I thought is was funny and not funny cause he was a man dressed as a woman, but that the relationship between him and his son was so weird. I think that if a person wants to change their body around to fit their brain, go right ahead. the relationship between father and son in this movie was messed up because their was no honesty, but there was caring and affection. I liked this movie because I don't know too much about people who are transsexual. it was a good learning experience for me to know that these changes are because their brains don't match their bodies.
The one part of the movie that I liked was at the end. When the son comes to visit Bre, he shows her that he is in a porn movie and now in that industry. You can tell she doe not agree with this but instead of getting mad and upset at him or being disappointed with him, she calmly and thankfully accepts his gesture. She was accepting, not hypocritical. As I see, finding one's true self can be a journey in life. Whether a quick one or long one, a journey nonetheless. I myself have thought that transgenderism had to do with homosexuality and crossdressing. I was wrong. It has to do with finding one's true identity as a male or female. I still do think that if you are born with female genitalia, you are a woman. If with male genitalia, you are a man. However, I will not impede in someone's journey into finding their own true self and wanting to be happy.
I thought the film was at least halfway entertaining. So we have this kid who obviously was sexually abused by his step dad as a child so he has big problems with that. For one he thinks giving head to some nasty trucker is a good way to make a quick buck. Anyone who thinks that something like this has things going on wrong in their brain. Then we have the Bre character who is actually a dude but is living as a women. What a chore that would be! I honestly feel bad for the individual, everything would be so unatural. She can't even take a piss without looking over her shoulder. The worst part of the film is when the kid was wanting to give his biological father head! WHAT IN THE HELL ARE WE WATCHING? This movie made me cringe at certain parts, overall it was okay though.
This movie give the great real life story who tried to find the trues and meaning of life and never ending happiness, I am totally understand and appreciate all of this hold movie. I like we should think about we are all family and human being. I Think this movie and another transsex's movies has gone little to much of negative ways to presented to the audainces, not because they want to show off the crezyness but they want us to see how stressful they 're when they are not even doing anything and to living in brutal society where poeple dont' even care about them. This has to change. My questions is come from andrew how do we know wheather it is boy or girl? don't looking for the body's parts but also the personalities and characteristics they had been rasie. what is the enviroments around them. The Question about the name just give them a name.. and in the future if they want to change the name to girl's to boy or boy's to girl it is up the them to choose. overrall this movie hit me hard. I like the funny part and jokes. It make me feel relax and feeling sacfiscation. This is great moview.
This movie has a lot to offer beyond the realms of trans gender issues. There is an obvious story of acceptance as well as a message in growing up and making decisions that benefit other people and not always yourself. There are several others as well but I suppose I should be using this space to discuss the controversial subject.
I would imagine that it would be very hard to try and be one thing when everything else tells you that you are something else. It would also be very hard as a parent to try and decide which sex to give your baby. There are obviously many challenges with babies born of both sexes or a child who has grown and decides to change to something else. I hope I never have to deal with either one. But if I had to deal with them, I would make the decision of the sex of my baby myself. It would be to hard for me to observe what the child should be by letting it grow to a certain age. I would doubt my judgment to much. Waiting to see if the child enjoys GI joes or Barbies is to risky. Some kids like neither, some boys play with dolls but grow up to be jocks, some girls play sports and get muddy but grow up to be girly girls.
I myself never played sports or anything growing up. I mostly sat and drew pictures or read books (both very mutual subjects). It would be hard for a parent to have to make that choice based on judgments. I think it would be better to go with your gut while their young and hope that raising them up that same way will work. It might not, but you do what you can.
We live in a society that is so judging and demanding that a kid could be ridiculed for life if people found out they had both parts until they were 3, 4, or 5.
Now if my kid decides to change midway through his life. That would also be hard. You would have to learn to accept the unique situation and try your best to accept them for their decision. Overall I would really try my best to love them in any situation.
this movie really did make me think about what i say more carefully. it was a very well directed movie and the message will go on for ever. i liked how they dealt with the issue in an upbeat style, it wasnt depressing, and it basically taught me that everyone is a person and we need to let them be who they want to be that way everyone is happy and we dont have psycho mass murderers murdering because they cant be who they want to be or feel like they need to be so they go around killing and taking innocent lives just for the hell of it. i am going to try in my daily life to be alot more accepting of individuals as who they are rather than who the world says they should be.
to me it was a decent good movie, i would definitely watch it again, not as boring as some. this movie just shows that everyone can be who they want to be, and no one should judge them differently. bree could have taken care of toby whether she was the "dad" or the "mom". bree finding out he had a son was probably at one of the worst times it could have happened, right before he was about to go through surgery. but bree as tough as she is, she still went through with it, which i give him props. one thing i did dislike about the movie was how bree kept it a secret that he was his father, i think every person deserves to know who his/her father is no matter the situation, bree was afraid because he was a transexual, then after hearing about the storys about tobys "dad" it discouraged bree even more to tell him. but he eventually ended up telling him. in conclusion, i think everyone should be accepted no matter how they look and dresss and act, because everyone is unique right? we cant all be perfect to everyone.
transexuality is strange to me. people should be allowed to change their circumstances, but it is still strange. just because bree thought she should be a woman instead of a man doesn't make her any less of a mother. bree had a hard life growing up with an intolerant mother. i believe that people should be allowed to do what they want with their lives, but it will still take a while for transexuals to be fully accepted into society
i would like to say that this movie is very well written and helps to clarify some of the feelings and circumstances that transsexuals may have. we see in this movie that just because you are born a male of female that this is not always the sex that you feel the most comfortable with. the main character here wasn't out to seduce other men or to spread her beliefs, but to simply find acceptance and maybe a sense of well being. her son on the other hand was abused into being "gay." there was no excuse for what the father figure in his life did to him and he obviously didn't like what happened to himself either, but he did seem to have accepted that other men liked him and used that to his advantage. this is a truly saddening part of this movie. the movie i think really tried to say that not everyone in the "gay" community is trying to convert any man they see. this movie is trying to tell the story of confusion and the journey to find inner peace for the more common members of this community.
My words have failed me. Would that I could speak for a time on my thoughts of metamorphosis, transitions, and the many masks we wear. But as I have stated the words have failed me. Take what you will from the story, because it is a grand story of dealing with some unique problems and coming to terms with your past, (and or family). however for all it's good I can't say anything of it simply because I am blinded by my rage. what made me so mad. Oedipus Complex. Damnit Freud just cause your mom was a MILF doesn't mean we all wanna fuck our mothers, quit projecting your problems on to psychology and modern storytelling. Damnit
This film for me made me think a little harder than the previous ones, which was nice. First off, the kid part of the story made me think of many different things. First off, was he the way he was due to the fact that his mother died?? Or was he more touched by the his father in law touching him growing up? Or was it part that he did not know his true father? I think there was this sense of confusion by the kid and was unsure of where to go. I like how in the film, they have a nice man who all he wants is to become a female. However, at the end of the film she learns a lesson about herself and life, and that there is more to offer the world than just trying to please yourself. That is why when she got her last surgery she was so sad, because she knew that what she did , well in this case not do, made a young boy grow up in a terrible situation and led him down a terrible path. Also in this movie the grandma or mom, was very interesting. I think I find her so fasinating because she acts how I would imagine my grandmother to act. She would still love the boy, but not the boy as a woman. I find this to be very sad, because if anyone in my family did such a thing, I would hope I would stil open them in loving arms like the sister, and father in the movie. That is not to say it would not be weird or hard, but I would not go about it in a rude way, and jus ttry to move forard with the situation.
I watched this film last semester in my English class. I think it was very good and weird same time. I think like in the movie, if children had sexual problems when they are young, there are lots of chance they became gay too. I think it is good that Bre take care of her son very well.I am sure if I am same situation as Bre It is hard for me to tell true to the son too. Even thogh you might change from men to women or women to men, we all love our children. We do not want to hurt our child and do not want to confuse them. It is nice in the end that Bre and her son try to understand each other and try to go foward. I am sure that there will be some discremination against them but if they are happy who they are, that is very importnat. I really loved that how the Bre's doctor support her and make sure that she is ready to be women not just outside but from inside too
Transamerica, I had barely even heard about the movie, and never thought that I would see it. To get the critic part over with I have to say that the movie was ok, there were definitely parts I could have died happy knowing I didn't see them, but what's done is done. Anyway. I was a little confused on the subject that we talked about in class and the subject of the film because they weren't exactly the same thing. For one, in class we talked about whether it is right or wrong to make the choice of what a child should be when it is born with both organs. While the movie on the other hand was just a man who chose to have an operation and become a woman. Hardly the same debate in my opinion. Do I think that men should get operations to change into a woman? Hey whatever floats your boat man. I don't care what you do, I just know that I am not down with it personally and I'm quite happy with being a heterosexual male who is married to a very beautiful wife who I love.
I have to admit I have been a homophobic for much of my younger years and began to change the way I thought about gays, lesbian, bisexuals, and transvestites etc. through religion. I have said it before and I’ll say it again. I am an active member of the LDS religion(I don’t claim to be in great standing with the church in terms of worthiness as defined by my church, but I still believe its teachings and more importantly the teaching of Jesus Christ). I have also mentioned on various occasions that I have not always been this way. For those of you that haven’t heard this and actually care I will share some of my history with you. I was raised in a traditional LDS family and attended church regularly. Around 11 or 12 I decided to get drunk on one of my friends, Dad’s booze stashes(Canadian Host). From that point I never looked back progressing from heavy drinking to Marijuana, to Meth, acid, cocaine and crack. Throughout this period I met some awesome people many of which I still communicate with, but none of them were gay or anything other than completely straight. This only limited my understanding and increased my ignorance towards others not like us even more. I learned a lot of hard lessons and fought a lot of personal demons in the process. After numerous run-ins with the law, Juvenile Detention, Jail time and extensive fines/impounds etc. I began to wonder if there was a better way. Then the most life changing event in my life occurred. I found out I was a Dad. This was the ultimate turning point in my life and religion soon became a subject of interest to me. As I said earlier I was raised in an LDS home and thought I knew what that was all about. I didn’t want to even go there again so I sought learning about many other religious creeds. To make this extremely long story shorter (since it’s already t.m.i for most), I found myself looking back into what I had been raised up in. Come to find out I really knew nothing significant about it. As all this was happening I began to think more about the human race and all its problems. One of those issues I gave more consideration to was the Gay and alternative lifestyle issue. It began to dawn on me that if I were to accept the belief that all men (Male and female) are children of a Father in heaven (or as some may call it a higher power) that I must stop any activity or thought of superiority, bigotry, intolerance, hatred etc. towards my brothers. I can’t say that I am in complete agreeance with all types of lifestyles but I know that I must be accepting of all mankind as my equals. I am by no mean perfect and I’m 100% sure I am far from it. I don’t claim to know all or even most of Gods will or methods and creations. But I believe one thing is for sure, God doesn’t mess up. All things are created for a specific reason and a hermaphrodite has much to teach mankind about something. I’m not really sure what but I know it’s true and I have my own theories on many of these things. Same goes for anyone born with gender issues. (I forget the proper terminology). Anyways I thought it might be helpful to give some of my background for a justification that Religion can be a means for opening ones eyes to a greater acceptance, tolerance, understanding and respect of other people and lifestyles. I hear a lot of the Opposite when comments about religious bigotry are used as a way of denouncing religion, God, higher power ideology etc. I am living proof that without Jesus, religion, and belief in a grater purpose than myself I might still be a closed minded fool, living life without respect and love for others. If your still reading this, sorry if I have sounded preachy or confused the hell out of you on what I am trying to say. I guess what I am trying to say is that the movie and this subject matter have re-awakened my sense of respect and love for everyone whatever their orientation may be. Still agreeing with all of the alternative lifestyles is something I can’t say I do, and some of my former posts have revealed this about me(I apologize for the offences) but I do love and respect each one of you and all my “brothers” (in other words everyone). None of us agree on everything. Hope we can disagree agreeably and keep the love flow’n.
To the end... She accepts that he's a gay porn-star... She has to-He accepts what she did... He... She...? What the hell? (sigh) Like, what a like, poor, messed up but extremely attractive little boy. This show is Sooooo messed up.
I'm sad just thinking about that situation. What's with all the gay movies all of a sudden? Is the teacher trying to tell us something? Is the world suddenly gay?, cuz last I checked, I liked the world. I love the world! Guess HIV ruined the party for the fudge-packers. Anyway, that movie sucked almost as bad as this class.
Pros- There is an AFI top movie chart. (Thank God!)
I think its sad that people like bMounteer are so ignorant that they can't get past the homosexual themes of movies. Yeah, Sara showed us lots of movies on that theme, because it is VERY controversial in this state ran by the Mormons! Just look at that Proposition that was passed in California, the LDS church provided over 70% of the funding for the movement to get that passed, which made Gay Marriage illegal IN CALIFORNIA. Why do they fucking care what goes on in another state? California isn't their damn "holy land" or whatever the fuck they think this shit hole is.
Anyways, there has been homosexuals since the beginning of time, and people like bMounteer and the ultra-pious devout Mormons make life harder for these poor people who suffer with these issues every day. If it wasn't for these types of people, transgenderism would likely be much less common. If everyone was accepting, and everyone really truly thought everyone was "equal" then they wouldn't feel like a woman trapped in a man's body, or vice versa. I believe that some transgendered people only do the change to be more accepted, because if you can pass as a female, you are more likely to be accepted than a homosexual male. Thank you Sara for showing us films like this, its sad that some people are too damn ignorant to pay attention.
I thought this movie was pretty interesting. I vaguely heard of the movie before this class, but did not fully understand what it was about. i think the movie relays a good message. All Bry wanted was to be accepted by the people around her. She wanted to be respected by her parents and peers. Throughout the movie, you can see how Bry slowly begins to accept certain things from her son. Bry accepts loves her son, despite the fact he is a gay prostitute with a drug problem. I thought the movie had a good message to accept people how they are, but the whole transvestite thing is straight up creepy!!!
I thought it was a pretty good film with a good message to it. Obviously it sparks controversy but nonetheless the overall message is that of acceptance for who we truly are. In my opinion our society is less understanding regarding transsexuals because it is seen as something that is wrong or unusual. I’ve had a good friend from high school who recently made the change from male to female and I am happy that she can be the way she’s always wanted to be. It can be hard to imagine growing up knowing your different but not being able to be the way you want to be. I believe the transsexual group to be one of the most underprivileged in our society today, it is probably the least represented and this causes people to sort of shun them away. One example can be something like the use of a restroom in the workplace, does a transsexual woman go to the men’s restroom, the women’s restroom, or maybe they don’t have unisex restrooms? Some men and women might feel uncomfortable with this and complaint to the supervisors about it, this can cause a problem for a transgendered individual that most people will never have to go through. Overall I think we shouldn’t be so quick to judge and accept those for who they are regardless of anything that seems out of the ordinary.
I will admit when the class started i had decided that i was going to sleep trough the film because i was very tired, however when the film started i was very intriged by it. my feelings on this is if it is not affecting you in any way then you do not even have a right to say these people are wrong to do this. i mean it would be a bit of a shock to be talking to someone who you have known for a while find out that they were born a different sex than what they are now but in the end i wouldn't really care. because that is who they were supposed to be. and no one has a right to tell them otherwise. I did think it was quite shocking when the kid kissed his dad though....
my humanities teacher was telling a us about a how one of her friends was born with both units and they perents had to pick... picking the wrong one. it was untill the guy was 40 that he ever found out. and his whole life he thought he was just gay, and his parents never told him. the issue while diffentent didnt really bug me... i guess im too open becuase non of the issues really bugged me in class... but i guess this is more for the final post...
I had never hear of Tranamerica and when i heard what we were watching i was getting ready to be bored. After watching it i find the movie to be alright. There are some parts that i they could have done away with a got there point across. I did find that the movie was a good one to end on. I like how it was a movie that was accepting. In it we can see all types of people in just one family. Some cases they weren't excepted but in then end we can see that not everyone is the same. People are differnet and that is what life is about. We need to exept people for who they are. We might not like what they are doing be we can be ther and help them out, and that what i like about the film.
What can i say the movie was different. Well i think every person has their own life and no one should tell you what you should be or what you are. I thought the movie was actually good at first i was like what kind gay movie is this. I thought it was sad that the family of stanely didn't accept how he was now. I thought it was stupid what the kid was doing to his life. It was funny what happened in the end when the kid movie was called and the career he actually chose.
I liked this movie, to be honest I've always wanted to see it and now I finally did. I liked that the movie was more of a positive look on trans gender instead of a negative look like some people bring it out to be. I liked how the movie was accepting of others. I liked the sister and how she didn't think of it as a big deal. When you are making a drastic change in your life you want people to be accepting and you need people for support. I think that in times like that my family would be very important. I liked at the end how the son came back and it was that happy ending that I was hoping for.
I finally got to see this movie, that my girlfriend has been talking about. I like this movie as it portrays a person just trying to be normal and find her place in society. I believe everyone should always find their true calling, even if it means changing their gender, because only then will they be truly happy. The real problem here is truly the poor and homeless that america is facing everyday.
I'm not really sure what to think about this film. Personally, I was a little disturbed. I've never been exposed to that kind of a person. I think that it is interesting how people can be born the opposite gender than they feel inside. This movie was very eye opening. It makes you more aware of the world and the different people that live in it.
I did think it was a little weird how the son was trying to kiss his father... or mother. It was all just different than I was every use to. I liked the ending though. I liked how they both grew up and learned a lot from each other.
Transamerica taught me alot. No one I know talks about transexuals and really knows anything about them. I guess we all just assumed they enjoyed wearing the oposite sexes clothing for fun. Bree really felt that he was a woman on the inside and needed to be one on the outside. I also liked the son in this movie. He had a lot of issues but he just kept trying. He didn't tell everyone about his problems and he never blamed Bree. And because Bree wanted acceptance she accepted him and it was just nice to see them both confortable with each other even though they had very different views. Transexual people are misunderstood a lot of the time. This movie was a great way to lightly inform people about their lifestyle and some of the challenges they face.
Trans America was good movie with a good underling value that portray excepting people for who they are. I don’t agree with sex changes unless they were born a hermaphrodite and truly feel that they need have a sex change. Now for those who just believe that they were made wrong take what God gave you and learn to deal with it. In the end God will sort it all out and fix anything that may be chemically or physically wrong with you.
This was a very different movie for me since I did and still really do not know all that much about transexuals. The idea that God would let someone be born into the wrong body just doesnt seem 100% right with me. I found it intersting how actually very accetping Brees family was. Although the mother had her moments they all were generally accepting of her. As they said they would need some time to ajust but that they feel with her. I dont like how Bree and the son ovoided the issues with one another. Yes they tolled each other and stuf but they never really discussed it. It was almost as if they blindly accepted the other person so that they themselves would be accepted.
I have no idea what it would be like to feel trapped in a woman's body but I think you should be able to whatever the fuck you want to your body. I'm not going to say that it will be accepted in the near future because it is a fairly new issue and I think it will take time. But we need to learn to tolerate people no matter what they look like. I'm guilty of it too! There's a guy at my gym that has his whole face tattooed like a snake and I always avoid him cuz I always think he's going to eat me or some shit. So, I'm not saying it's always easy, but tolerance is key.
This whole semester I thought the main theme was to find who you are inside. From american history X to transamerica there is a wide variety of views. With this one it was a little different then others but had a good point to the story. At the first Brie didn;t want to except the fact that "he" had a son but as time went on she really fell in love with him. The bond that they build is how most people's relationships should be with their parents. They can express what they want to each other but also know how to joke around. The family should have excepted Brie no matter what shwe is. Growing uo "Stanley" was raised by a great family from what it looks like, but wwhen they find out they go total cold shoulder.. Family is family no matter what you are so whatever parents kids end up doing we should love them. That will show them that we really care about them. In the end the boy see's how much bondage he spent even though at the end he was totally surprised. You cannot hide the feelings you gain during a good realationship!!!
This movie was interesting and eye opening to say the least. i think that while it's a very hard issue for most people to tolerate and accept that ultimately it's their body and they can do what they want with it. I mean if you think about it these people wouldn't be going through all this and doing all these things to themselves and paying these thousands of dollars if they really didn't feel like it was their true identity, and hey if it's what makes them happy more power to them, like i said it's there body and therefore their choice.
This film was very entertaining on many levels. It had plenty of humor that I enjoyed while at the same time, keeping to a more dramatic film. I really enjoy films where character development is obvious and heart warming. I can't say that I understand what its like to go through such a drastic change in my life like Bree did but I can sympathize with the aloneness that she seems to feel and portray throughout the film. There were a few scenes that could have been omitted but since it is a film I guess I can deal with it. I wish that people would be more accepting of others life style choices then to jump all over them with the "why are you doing this to me" banner and focus on what it will do for the individual and not to them. I don't know what goes on in the mind of a person who is convinced that they were born the wrong sex but I can say that they should be loved unconditionally. Just because they change their physical appearance doesn't make them any less human than me or anyone else who doesn't suffer the way they do. N'uff said!
This movie was awesome! I loved it. It has so many things going on you just have to see how everything goes. You have a transgender going through her change and waiting for surgery who finds out she has a son from a one night stand. Then when she meets him after she lies to him about who she is, finds out he is a prostitute and was abused by his step father. Then the kid freaks out when he finds out that she is a trasgender who isnt accepted by her family. This movie shows how things really are with the transgender community. I never realized how hard it can be until I watched this movie and anyne who says its gross needs to shut the fuck up cause its just as natural as a heterosexual relationship.
After I watched the movie it made me think about how different people can be with situations presented to them. I come from a family where there is a ton of acceptance so I doesn't make sense to me that people would deny their own flesh and blood because of a life choice they have made. In fact I think its healthier for someone to got through something like that to help finally identify who they are because there lucky enough to figure that out. There are people who aren't trans gendered who haven't figured out who they are and have a mid life crisis. I know that there are people in my life that I deal with daily with and communicate and interacted with that don't know where they stand in life and while searching they do more harm to themselves while they are experimenting with drugs, or giving into materialization. So over all I do understand that when someone goes through a gender crisis or life changing event that other people are affected to an extent, but I think that as far as a support group goes it is vital to a persons well being during these times.
Even historically compared to other societies, we are terribly gender-role obsessed in this country. As the film pointed out androgynous individuals have in many places had a revered and special place culturally. The key aspect to the gender identity disorder is that it manifests at such a young age; by the time people are able to perceive a difference in gender, they form an affinity. The problem occurs when their gender perception does not match the physical status of the individual. In order to be healthy and whole, these people have the right to pursue the courses that will allow them to live as fulfilled adults.
The other issue raised by Sara (that I appreciated) is the disparity in difference for a physical female v. a physical male seeking gender reassignment surgery. The basic misogyny in overcharging women and the general unavailability of the equivalent surgical procedures simply shows that even for those that adhere to socially palatable gender roles, we have a long way to go before we achieve a fair and egalitarian society.
In my opinion, the messages brought up in the movie, and during the class discussion after were not all right. I do believe that there are instances where, a person born with both genitalia, and who has had one or the other removed, may lean towards the other gender. For example, a child may be born with both parts, have the penis removed and then, as they grow up, may find themselves having more "mannish" tendencies. But the idea of people who claim they were just born the wrong gender, to me is ridiculous. Society has a way of teaching us that if we don't feel like we fit in we can just change it with a surgery. We all go through awkward years, it's called Jr. High for most of us, but just because a boy's friends are all girls does not mean that he should've been a girl, it just means that all of his friends are girls. If someone wants to have a sex change, that is their choice, but lets just call it for what it is...that it's their choice. God is not to blame.
This is the first transsexual film I've seen in my life. With what now most traditional viewer's stereotype, it must been hard for transsexual people to live through this society. But I suppose we both side have to live through to get use to. If really feel the body you have is not belong to you. Than there's nothing to be shame, it is your body, it will your decision to decide whenever you want to it. Church has no right to decide what other people should to do to their own body.
The child really need parent to be with them, or they will do something which they shouldn't do. Like her son in the film, taking drugs, stealing, and prostitution. That's because he dosen't have someone talk to him since he were little. But at least he got a job for himself at the end, though the job is same sex porn. But at lest its a job, inherit maybe.
The movie's end is good, they accept each other and got what both they want. I always like an good ending. Never like an unhappy ending.
so sorry it's late so if you don't accept it i understand i had to goto a buisness meeting at ups sorry. better trying than doing nothing in my opinion.
Great movie very entertaining and insightful good morals of acceptance and tolerance. this is something everybody should reach out and try to be. it's hard for me to shoot this down personally i don't think it's right to be intolerant to people who differ from you that being said i really liked how the movie put a humerous spin on this serious subject and made it easy going it definetly made me think about the struggles of transgendered people i enjoyed the movie and would definetly watch it again
The concept of relativity is still very much in the shadows. It seems that when dialogue breaks down, the battle begins. I get it, nobody wants to be wrong, but it’s not even that, people have to be right in everything we do; at least justified. This disconnect repeats it self over time dating back to well… I believe this is the pretense Socrates was condemned to death. Nobody wants a guy who claims to know nothing, challenging his or her beliefs by simply asking questions. Why do we judge others compared to our own lives? We live in a world with trillions of nuclei battling for the center. This is an overview of what I took away from the class.
As for the last film we watched. I have respect for people brought to this world forced to play a role that was never intended for them. It seems like electricity dressed up as water. I have always had questions about gays and transsexuals, beginning since high school when I first learned the story of john/Joan on Opera. Now don’t get me wrong, I hate the Opera show. But this particular show opened my eyes to the possibilities. People are born all different ways; some with extra fingers and some in the wrong body… How does the old saying go? “I might be weird but so are you.” I wouldn’t have it any other way.
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Very interesting movie I thought. I don't know what the big deal is about being who you really are. I thought Bre was a lady all the way except for whats in her pants. She was a very caring, lovable and sensitive person like most mother's do. She cared very much for the boy and she wasn't trying to hurt anyone. I think she was very determined to go through with the surgery that she neglected to handle her relationship with her/his son first. He had his problems with his sexuality also. He was sexually abused at a young age and was struggling with it. He turned to drugs and alcohol and was never able to handle and or control his sexual desires. Later on in the show he was doing pornography and getting paid. Bre was OK with it. Immediately after the surgery I think its when she finally realized that she should have been there for her son from the beginning rather than being so consumed with her own situation and left him alone. Thing happen in our lives and don't usually handle it the right way at first until someone lets us know. Sometimes a little reminder wont hurt anyone. We shouldn't be so quick to judge but rather try to understand and a be good listener as well. Bre's family were a little weired also. Father was probably the most sane one of the bunch. Mother was off the wall and didn't give Bre a chance. The sister in the other hand had her own problems that she was dealing with. They were all excited to know about Toby and having a grandson in their lives.
ReplyDeleteI am sorry for my ignorance, but I used to think that transgender and gay (homosexual) are the same type of issue. Now I know that Transgender is a general term applied to a variety of individuals, behaviors, and groups involving tendencies that diverge from the normative gender role (woman or man) commonly, but not always, assigned at birth, as well as the role traditionally held by society. Transgender is the state of one's "gender identity (self-identification as woman, man, or neither) not matching ones "assigned sex" (identification by others as male or female based on physical/genetic sex). And that Gay refers to attraction or sexual behavior between people of the same sex, or to a sexual orientation.
ReplyDeleteI feel that everyone transgender, gay or straight no matter has the right to be who they are, and none of us are perfect enough to judge others on that kind of decision.
TransAmerica: Before seeing the movie, I'd heard of it before and I was always curious to watch it because I'd heard many good reviews about it. I found out that the actress that was playing BRE is actually a woman. It's funny to say this, but she plays a good transgender woman. The movie itself was very entertaining, uncomfortable in some parts but entertaining overall.
ReplyDeleteThe thing that I liked the most about the film was that it delivered a great message, Acceptance. BRE and her son and as well as her family learned to accept each others lifestyles. And that's a message anyone can learn from this film. We need to learn how to accept individuals for who they are and not judge them for their beliefs, race, gender, and sexuality. You don't have to agree with their beliefs but learne to accept their different way of being.
About 5 years or more ago, We didn't really hear much about individuals who were transgender. I like the fact that we are evolving into a more informed society. Knowing about issues that we didn't know much about before. It's good to be informed and understand different lifestyles.
I think that after watching the movie that I understand the term transgender allot more clearly now. Before the movie I thought that they where freaks of nature. Shows how much I knew. After being educated I realize that not only can they be just normal people but they are more common they we might think. I also think that some of the controversy we disguised before the movie where legitimate but I would like to make a comment on the point. People where comment on how we should let children grow up before we choose what sex they should be. My question is what you tell people that want to know if it is a girl or a boy. Another question is the name do you have to pick a neutral name or do you want your little girl’s birth certificate to say tom or bill.
ReplyDeleteTrans America very good movie overall. i can honestly recommend this movie to people for the reason i learned a lot in this film, it teaches acceptance and it defenatlly taught me a big lesson. i always thought that transexual people needed help mentally, thats probebly because the only time i have been around a trans was when i use to work at smiths marketplace and an older male dressed like a female would always come to the store just to go to the bathroom, later the store directer found out that we did actuallt need mental help. Not everyone is the same though, i always looked at transexual people on the street of mexico and think they were weird. In the movie it shows to accept anybody for who they are and what they think.
ReplyDeleteResponsibility was another topic discussed after the movie, the responibility of your actions is also important or else you would look back to the problem and say "i fucked up" especially in the case of a child.
With this film to me the main controversial aspect is the fact that you have to get a surgery to become the sex you want. Or that if you were born with both sexes that a surgery will take place to bring you back down to being of only one outward gender. I don't think parents should be aloud to tell a doctor to cut off some part of a child's body unless that part is something deathly ill.
ReplyDeleteParents every day in our country have their doctors cut the skin off of boy's penis's for circumcision. Why because its the normal thing to do. Screw that I didn't get a say in whether or not I got a piece of me cut off. I wish my parents would of left that shit alone I mean perhaps sex could be better than It is if I still had it but I will never know because my parents let me just get butchered.
Sure my dick fits the profile of normality but that is some weird shit to find normal. It all comes down to conformity. The controversy exists because we all want to fit in and we think its weird when someone else is different. If your born a man and don't feel like a man and want to cut your dick off, to me your crazy but that's probably because I like having a dick. People should definitely be able to choose who they are and so if a man or women wants to be the opposite of what they were born or didn't get the choice because their parents hacked off or sowed up what they really should of been then they should totally be able to go back to what they want.
We all have differences but our biggest problem is just getting over the differences of others. Which as a nation and a world its a problem that's still kicking our ass.
This is another issue I don't care too much for, I always find these types of movies to be very boring and predictable. The main character is usually in pursuit of his or her own self-centered, narrow-minded agenda. When they introduce the antagonist with his own narrow-minded, self-centered goals. This leads to all kinds of shenanigans and eventually culminates in a climax where their self-centered, narrow-minded ideas come to a head and everyone is forced into either learning or running. In this particular movie we get to see both.
ReplyDeletePersonal identity is a strange concept that I think we all have a little trouble with at one point or another. Usually when problems with identity come up some therapy or even just talking with friends can help. It would be something entirely different if a peaceful existence would require some sort of major cosmetic change.
The class as a whole has been leading up to this main theme of acceptance. I think the general theme of the class was to accept people for who they are, we all have our differences, weather they be belief, life style, race, politics, passion, or sexuality. At the beginning of the class I think many of us were close-minded and not accepting of others on many of these topics, whether we want to admit it or not. I see a change in myself and also notice a difference in our debates in class and our postings. This movie summed up the lesson of acceptance very well, and I would guess that most of us would think twice about judging someone that is transgender or different than us in any other way.
ReplyDeleteThis movie was very interesting. It has been on my mind since I saw it. My heart aches for the poor boy that was abused by his step dad and how he has learned to deal with it. I literally got nauseous when he met the guy in the bathroom and hooked up in the car. To see a 17 yr old boy doing that kind of thing is soooo wrong!
ReplyDeleteIm opinion is very different than my religions and my parents. I feel that anyone who unhappy with the way they look has the right to change it if it will honestly make them happier. Its much better than the alternative... suicide. My opinion to my parents suggests that God made a mistake. I don't believe that He makes mistakes but he makes people who they are for a reason and gives us all trials. I appreciate Sara's commment of people on both sides of the spectrum and how there has to be people in the middle. It is an interesting concept and further adds to my "in progress" opinion.
I liked how the movie ended with the ultimate moral of acceptance. I think that is what I need to definitely work on with a lot of what we have dicussed in this course.... So thank you Sara for broadening my range of thinking and being more open to different kinds of people and their lifestyles.
I liked this movie. I thought is was funny and not funny cause he was a man dressed as a woman, but that the relationship between him and his son was so weird. I think that if a person wants to change their body around to fit their brain, go right ahead. the relationship between father and son in this movie was messed up because their was no honesty, but there was caring and affection. I liked this movie because I don't know too much about people who are transsexual. it was a good learning experience for me to know that these changes are because their brains don't match their bodies.
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DeleteThe one part of the movie that I liked was at the end. When the son comes to visit Bre, he shows her that he is in a porn movie and now in that industry. You can tell she doe not agree with this but instead of getting mad and upset at him or being disappointed with him, she calmly and thankfully accepts his gesture.
ReplyDeleteShe was accepting, not hypocritical.
As I see, finding one's true self can be a journey in life. Whether a quick one or long one, a journey nonetheless.
I myself have thought that transgenderism had to do with homosexuality and crossdressing. I was wrong. It has to do with finding one's true identity as a male or female.
I still do think that if you are born with female genitalia, you are a woman. If with male genitalia, you are a man.
However, I will not impede in someone's journey into finding their own true self and wanting to be happy.
I thought the film was at least halfway entertaining. So we have this kid who obviously was sexually abused by his step dad as a child so he has big problems with that. For one he thinks giving head to some nasty trucker is a good way to make a quick buck. Anyone who thinks that something like this has things going on wrong in their brain. Then we have the Bre character who is actually a dude but is living as a women. What a chore that would be! I honestly feel bad for the individual, everything would be so unatural. She can't even take a piss without looking over her shoulder. The worst part of the film is when the kid was wanting to give his biological father head! WHAT IN THE HELL ARE WE WATCHING? This movie made me cringe at certain parts, overall it was okay though.
ReplyDeleteThis movie give the great real life story who tried to find the trues and meaning of life and never ending happiness, I am totally understand and appreciate all of this hold movie. I like we should think about we are all family and human being. I Think this movie and another transsex's movies has gone little to much of negative ways to presented to the audainces, not because they want to show off the crezyness but they want us to see how stressful they 're when they are not even doing anything and to living in brutal society where poeple dont' even care about them. This has to change. My questions is come from andrew how do we know wheather it is boy or girl? don't looking for the body's parts but also the personalities and characteristics they had been rasie. what is the enviroments around them. The Question about the name just give them a name.. and in the future if they want to change the name to girl's to boy or boy's to girl it is up the them to choose. overrall this movie hit me hard. I like the funny part and jokes. It make me feel relax and feeling sacfiscation. This is great moview.
ReplyDeleteThis movie has a lot to offer beyond the realms of trans gender issues. There is an obvious story of acceptance as well as a message in growing up and making decisions that benefit other people and not always yourself. There are several others as well but I suppose I should be using this space to discuss the controversial subject.
ReplyDeleteI would imagine that it would be very hard to try and be one thing when everything else tells you that you are something else. It would also be very hard as a parent to try and decide which sex to give your baby. There are obviously many challenges with babies born of both sexes or a child who has grown and decides to change to something else. I hope I never have to deal with either one. But if I had to deal with them, I would make the decision of the sex of my baby myself. It would be to hard for me to observe what the child should be by letting it grow to a certain age. I would doubt my judgment to much. Waiting to see if the child enjoys GI joes or Barbies is to risky. Some kids like neither, some boys play with dolls but grow up to be jocks, some girls play sports and get muddy but grow up to be girly girls.
I myself never played sports or anything growing up. I mostly sat and drew pictures or read books (both very mutual subjects). It would be hard for a parent to have to make that choice based on judgments. I think it would be better to go with your gut while their young and hope that raising them up that same way will work. It might not, but you do what you can.
We live in a society that is so judging and demanding that a kid could be ridiculed for life if people found out they had both parts until they were 3, 4, or 5.
Now if my kid decides to change midway through his life. That would also be hard. You would have to learn to accept the unique situation and try your best to accept them for their decision. Overall I would really try my best to love them in any situation.
this movie really did make me think about what i say more carefully. it was a very well directed movie and the message will go on for ever. i liked how they dealt with the issue in an upbeat style, it wasnt depressing, and it basically taught me that everyone is a person and we need to let them be who they want to be that way everyone is happy and we dont have psycho mass murderers murdering because they cant be who they want to be or feel like they need to be so they go around killing and taking innocent lives just for the hell of it. i am going to try in my daily life to be alot more accepting of individuals as who they are rather than who the world says they should be.
ReplyDeleteto me it was a decent good movie, i would definitely watch it again, not as boring as some. this movie just shows that everyone can be who they want to be, and no one should judge them differently. bree could have taken care of toby whether she was the "dad" or the "mom". bree finding out he had a son was probably at one of the worst times it could have happened, right before he was about to go through surgery. but bree as tough as she is, she still went through with it, which i give him props. one thing i did dislike about the movie was how bree kept it a secret that he was his father, i think every person deserves to know who his/her father is no matter the situation, bree was afraid because he was a transexual, then after hearing about the storys about tobys "dad" it discouraged bree even more to tell him. but he eventually ended up telling him. in conclusion, i think everyone should be accepted no matter how they look and dresss and act, because everyone is unique right? we cant all be perfect to everyone.
ReplyDeletetransexuality is strange to me. people should be allowed to change their circumstances, but it is still strange. just because bree thought she should be a woman instead of a man doesn't make her any less of a mother. bree had a hard life growing up with an intolerant mother. i believe that people should be allowed to do what they want with their lives, but it will still take a while for transexuals to be fully accepted into society
ReplyDeletei would like to say that this movie is very well written and helps to clarify some of the feelings and circumstances that transsexuals may have. we see in this movie that just because you are born a male of female that this is not always the sex that you feel the most comfortable with. the main character here wasn't out to seduce other men or to spread her beliefs, but to simply find acceptance and maybe a sense of well being. her son on the other hand was abused into being "gay." there was no excuse for what the father figure in his life did to him and he obviously didn't like what happened to himself either, but he did seem to have accepted that other men liked him and used that to his advantage. this is a truly saddening part of this movie. the movie i think really tried to say that not everyone in the "gay" community is trying to convert any man they see. this movie is trying to tell the story of confusion and the journey to find inner peace for the more common members of this community.
ReplyDeleteMy words have failed me. Would that I could speak for a time on my thoughts of metamorphosis, transitions, and the many masks we wear. But as I have stated the words have failed me. Take what you will from the story, because it is a grand story of dealing with some unique problems and coming to terms with your past, (and or family). however for all it's good I can't say anything of it simply because I am blinded by my rage. what made me so mad.
ReplyDeleteOedipus Complex.
Damnit Freud just cause your mom was a MILF doesn't mean we all wanna fuck our mothers, quit projecting your problems on to psychology and modern storytelling. Damnit
This film for me made me think a little harder than the previous ones, which was nice. First off, the kid part of the story made me think of many different things. First off, was he the way he was due to the fact that his mother died?? Or was he more touched by the his father in law touching him growing up? Or was it part that he did not know his true father? I think there was this sense of confusion by the kid and was unsure of where to go.
ReplyDeleteI like how in the film, they have a nice man who all he wants is to become a female. However, at the end of the film she learns a lesson about herself and life, and that there is more to offer the world than just trying to please yourself. That is why when she got her last surgery she was so sad, because she knew that what she did , well in this case not do, made a young boy grow up in a terrible situation and led him down a terrible path.
Also in this movie the grandma or mom, was very interesting. I think I find her so fasinating because she acts how I would imagine my grandmother to act. She would still love the boy, but not the boy as a woman. I find this to be very sad, because if anyone in my family did such a thing, I would hope I would stil open them in loving arms like the sister, and father in the movie. That is not to say it would not be weird or hard, but I would not go about it in a rude way, and jus ttry to move forard with the situation.
I watched this film last semester in my English class. I think it was very good and weird same time. I think like in the movie, if children had sexual problems when they are young, there are lots of chance they became gay too. I think it is good that Bre take care of her son very well.I am sure if I am same situation as Bre It is hard for me to tell true to the son too. Even thogh you might change from men to women or women to men, we all love our children. We do not want to hurt our child and do not want to confuse them. It is nice in the end that Bre and her son try to understand each other and try to go foward. I am sure that there will be some discremination against them but if they are happy who they are, that is very importnat.
ReplyDeleteI really loved that how the Bre's doctor support her and make sure that she is ready to be women not just outside but from inside too
Transamerica, I had barely even heard about the movie, and never thought that I would see it. To get the critic part over with I have to say that the movie was ok, there were definitely parts I could have died happy knowing I didn't see them, but what's done is done. Anyway. I was a little confused on the subject that we talked about in class and the subject of the film because they weren't exactly the same thing. For one, in class we talked about whether it is right or wrong to make the choice of what a child should be when it is born with both organs. While the movie on the other hand was just a man who chose to have an operation and become a woman. Hardly the same debate in my opinion. Do I think that men should get operations to change into a woman? Hey whatever floats your boat man. I don't care what you do, I just know that I am not down with it personally and I'm quite happy with being a heterosexual male who is married to a very beautiful wife who I love.
ReplyDeleteI have to admit I have been a homophobic for much of my younger years and began to change the way I thought about gays, lesbian, bisexuals, and transvestites etc. through religion. I have said it before and I’ll say it again. I am an active member of the LDS religion(I don’t claim to be in great standing with the church in terms of worthiness as defined by my church, but I still believe its teachings and more importantly the teaching of Jesus Christ). I have also mentioned on various occasions that I have not always been this way. For those of you that haven’t heard this and actually care I will share some of my history with you. I was raised in a traditional LDS family and attended church regularly. Around 11 or 12 I decided to get drunk on one of my friends, Dad’s booze stashes(Canadian Host). From that point I never looked back progressing from heavy drinking to Marijuana, to Meth, acid, cocaine and crack. Throughout this period I met some awesome people many of which I still communicate with, but none of them were gay or anything other than completely straight. This only limited my understanding and increased my ignorance towards others not like us even more. I learned a lot of hard lessons and fought a lot of personal demons in the process. After numerous run-ins with the law, Juvenile Detention, Jail time and extensive fines/impounds etc. I began to wonder if there was a better way. Then the most life changing event in my life occurred. I found out I was a Dad. This was the ultimate turning point in my life and religion soon became a subject of interest to me. As I said earlier I was raised in an LDS home and thought I knew what that was all about. I didn’t want to even go there again so I sought learning about many other religious creeds. To make this extremely long story shorter (since it’s already t.m.i for most), I found myself looking back into what I had been raised up in. Come to find out I really knew nothing significant about it. As all this was happening I began to think more about the human race and all its problems. One of those issues I gave more consideration to was the Gay and alternative lifestyle issue. It began to dawn on me that if I were to accept the belief that all men (Male and female) are children of a Father in heaven (or as some may call it a higher power) that I must stop any activity or thought of superiority, bigotry, intolerance, hatred etc. towards my brothers. I can’t say that I am in complete agreeance with all types of lifestyles but I know that I must be accepting of all mankind as my equals. I am by no mean perfect and I’m 100% sure I am far from it. I don’t claim to know all or even most of Gods will or methods and creations. But I believe one thing is for sure, God doesn’t mess up. All things are created for a specific reason and a hermaphrodite has much to teach mankind about something. I’m not really sure what but I know it’s true and I have my own theories on many of these things. Same goes for anyone born with gender issues. (I forget the proper terminology). Anyways I thought it might be helpful to give some of my background for a justification that Religion can be a means for opening ones eyes to a greater acceptance, tolerance, understanding and respect of other people and lifestyles. I hear a lot of the Opposite when comments about religious bigotry are used as a way of denouncing religion, God, higher power ideology etc. I am living proof that without Jesus, religion, and belief in a grater purpose than myself I might still be a closed minded fool, living life without respect and love for others. If your still reading this, sorry if I have sounded preachy or confused the hell out of you on what I am trying to say. I guess what I am trying to say is that the movie and this subject matter have re-awakened my sense of respect and love for everyone whatever their orientation may be. Still agreeing with all of the alternative lifestyles is something I can’t say I do, and some of my former posts have revealed this about me(I apologize for the offences) but I do love and respect each one of you and all my “brothers” (in other words everyone). None of us agree on everything. Hope we can disagree agreeably and keep the love flow’n.
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ReplyDeleteShe accepts that he's a gay porn-star... She has to-He accepts what she did... He... She...? What the hell? (sigh) Like, what a like, poor, messed up but extremely attractive little boy. This show is Sooooo messed up.
I'm sad just thinking about that situation. What's with all the gay movies all of a sudden? Is the teacher trying to tell us something? Is the world suddenly gay?, cuz last I checked, I liked the world. I love the world! Guess HIV ruined the party for the fudge-packers. Anyway, that movie sucked almost as bad as this class.
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I think its sad that people like bMounteer are so ignorant that they can't get past the homosexual themes of movies. Yeah, Sara showed us lots of movies on that theme, because it is VERY controversial in this state ran by the Mormons! Just look at that Proposition that was passed in California, the LDS church provided over 70% of the funding for the movement to get that passed, which made Gay Marriage illegal IN CALIFORNIA. Why do they fucking care what goes on in another state? California isn't their damn "holy land" or whatever the fuck they think this shit hole is.
ReplyDeleteAnyways, there has been homosexuals since the beginning of time, and people like bMounteer and the ultra-pious devout Mormons make life harder for these poor people who suffer with these issues every day. If it wasn't for these types of people, transgenderism would likely be much less common. If everyone was accepting, and everyone really truly thought everyone was "equal" then they wouldn't feel like a woman trapped in a man's body, or vice versa. I believe that some transgendered people only do the change to be more accepted, because if you can pass as a female, you are more likely to be accepted than a homosexual male. Thank you Sara for showing us films like this, its sad that some people are too damn ignorant to pay attention.
I thought this movie was pretty interesting. I vaguely heard of the movie before this class, but did not fully understand what it was about. i think the movie relays a good message. All Bry wanted was to be accepted by the people around her. She wanted to be respected by her parents and peers. Throughout the movie, you can see how Bry slowly begins to accept certain things from her son. Bry accepts loves her son, despite the fact he is a gay prostitute with a drug problem. I thought the movie had a good message to accept people how they are, but the whole transvestite thing is straight up creepy!!!
ReplyDeleteI thought it was a pretty good film with a good message to it. Obviously it sparks controversy but nonetheless the overall message is that of acceptance for who we truly are. In my opinion our society is less understanding regarding transsexuals because it is seen as something that is wrong or unusual. I’ve had a good friend from high school who recently made the change from male to female and I am happy that she can be the way she’s always wanted to be. It can be hard to imagine growing up knowing your different but not being able to be the way you want to be. I believe the transsexual group to be one of the most underprivileged in our society today, it is probably the least represented and this causes people to sort of shun them away. One example can be something like the use of a restroom in the workplace, does a transsexual woman go to the men’s restroom, the women’s restroom, or maybe they don’t have unisex restrooms? Some men and women might feel uncomfortable with this and complaint to the supervisors about it, this can cause a problem for a transgendered individual that most people will never have to go through. Overall I think we shouldn’t be so quick to judge and accept those for who they are regardless of anything that seems out of the ordinary.
ReplyDeleteI will admit when the class started i had decided that i was going to sleep trough the film because i was very tired, however when the film started i was very intriged by it. my feelings on this is if it is not affecting you in any way then you do not even have a right to say these people are wrong to do this. i mean it would be a bit of a shock to be talking to someone who you have known for a while find out that they were born a different sex than what they are now but in the end i wouldn't really care. because that is who they were supposed to be. and no one has a right to tell them otherwise. I did think it was quite shocking when the kid kissed his dad though....
ReplyDeletemy humanities teacher was telling a us about a how one of her friends was born with both units and they perents had to pick... picking the wrong one. it was untill the guy was 40 that he ever found out. and his whole life he thought he was just gay, and his parents never told him. the issue while diffentent didnt really bug me... i guess im too open becuase non of the issues really bugged me in class... but i guess this is more for the final post...
ReplyDeleteI had never hear of Tranamerica and when i heard what we were watching i was getting ready to be bored. After watching it i find the movie to be alright. There are some parts that i they could have done away with a got there point across. I did find that the movie was a good one to end on. I like how it was a movie that was accepting. In it we can see all types of people in just one family. Some cases they weren't excepted but in then end we can see that not everyone is the same. People are differnet and that is what life is about. We need to exept people for who they are. We might not like what they are doing be we can be ther and help them out, and that what i like about the film.
ReplyDeleteWhat can i say the movie was different. Well i think every person has their own life and no one should tell you what you should be or what you are. I thought the movie was actually good at first i was like what kind gay movie is this. I thought it was sad that the family of stanely didn't accept how he was now. I thought it was stupid what the kid was doing to his life. It was funny what happened in the end when the kid movie was called and the career he actually chose.
ReplyDeleteI liked this movie, to be honest I've always wanted to see it and now I finally did. I liked that the movie was more of a positive look on trans gender instead of a negative look like some people bring it out to be. I liked how the movie was accepting of others. I liked the sister and how she didn't think of it as a big deal. When you are making a drastic change in your life you want people to be accepting and you need people for support. I think that in times like that my family would be very important. I liked at the end how the son came back and it was that happy ending that I was hoping for.
ReplyDeleteI finally got to see this movie, that my girlfriend has been talking about. I like this movie as it portrays a person just trying to be normal and find her place in society. I believe everyone should always find their true calling, even if it means changing their gender, because only then will they be truly happy. The real problem here is truly the poor and homeless that america is facing everyday.
ReplyDeleteI'm not really sure what to think about this film. Personally, I was a little disturbed. I've never been exposed to that kind of a person. I think that it is interesting how people can be born the opposite gender than they feel inside. This movie was very eye opening. It makes you more aware of the world and the different people that live in it.
ReplyDeleteI did think it was a little weird how the son was trying to kiss his father... or mother. It was all just different than I was every use to. I liked the ending though. I liked how they both grew up and learned a lot from each other.
Transamerica taught me alot. No one I know talks about transexuals and really knows anything about them. I guess we all just assumed they enjoyed wearing the oposite sexes clothing for fun. Bree really felt that he was a woman on the inside and needed to be one on the outside. I also liked the son in this movie. He had a lot of issues but he just kept trying. He didn't tell everyone about his problems and he never blamed Bree. And because Bree wanted acceptance she accepted him and it was just nice to see them both confortable with each other even though they had very different views. Transexual people are misunderstood a lot of the time. This movie was a great way to lightly inform people about their lifestyle and some of the challenges they face.
ReplyDeleteTrans America was good movie with a good underling value that portray excepting people for who they are. I don’t agree with sex changes unless they were born a hermaphrodite and truly feel that they need have a sex change. Now for those who just believe that they were made wrong take what God gave you and learn to deal with it. In the end God will sort it all out and fix anything that may be chemically or physically wrong with you.
ReplyDeleteThis was a very different movie for me since I did and still really do not know all that much about transexuals. The idea that God would let someone be born into the wrong body just doesnt seem 100% right with me. I found it intersting how actually very accetping Brees family was. Although the mother had her moments they all were generally accepting of her. As they said they would need some time to ajust but that they feel with her. I dont like how Bree and the son ovoided the issues with one another. Yes they tolled each other and stuf but they never really discussed it. It was almost as if they blindly accepted the other person so that they themselves would be accepted.
ReplyDeleteI have no idea what it would be like to feel trapped in a woman's body but I think you should be able to whatever the fuck you want to your body. I'm not going to say that it will be accepted in the near future because it is a fairly new issue and I think it will take time. But we need to learn to tolerate people no matter what they look like. I'm guilty of it too! There's a guy at my gym that has his whole face tattooed like a snake and I always avoid him cuz I always think he's going to eat me or some shit. So, I'm not saying it's always easy, but tolerance is key.
ReplyDeleteThis whole semester I thought the main theme was to find who you are inside. From american history X to transamerica there is a wide variety of views. With this one it was a little different then others but had a good point to the story. At the first Brie didn;t want to except the fact that "he" had a son but as time went on she really fell in love with him. The bond that they build is how most people's relationships should be with their parents. They can express what they want to each other but also know how to joke around. The family should have excepted Brie no matter what shwe is. Growing uo "Stanley" was raised by a great family from what it looks like, but wwhen they find out they go total cold shoulder.. Family is family no matter what you are so whatever parents kids end up doing we should love them. That will show them that we really care about them. In the end the boy see's how much bondage he spent even though at the end he was totally surprised. You cannot hide the feelings you gain during a good realationship!!!
ReplyDeleteThis movie was interesting and eye opening to say the least. i think that while it's a very hard issue for most people to tolerate and accept that ultimately it's their body and they can do what they want with it. I mean if you think about it these people wouldn't be going through all this and doing all these things to themselves and paying these thousands of dollars if they really didn't feel like it was their true identity, and hey if it's what makes them happy more power to them, like i said it's there body and therefore their choice.
ReplyDeleteThis film was very entertaining on many levels. It had plenty of humor that I enjoyed while at the same time, keeping to a more dramatic film. I really enjoy films where character development is obvious and heart warming. I can't say that I understand what its like to go through such a drastic change in my life like Bree did but I can sympathize with the aloneness that she seems to feel and portray throughout the film. There were a few scenes that could have been omitted but since it is a film I guess I can deal with it. I wish that people would be more accepting of others life style choices then to jump all over them with the "why are you doing this to me" banner and focus on what it will do for the individual and not to them. I don't know what goes on in the mind of a person who is convinced that they were born the wrong sex but I can say that they should be loved unconditionally. Just because they change their physical appearance doesn't make them any less human than me or anyone else who doesn't suffer the way they do. N'uff said!
ReplyDeleteThis movie was awesome! I loved it. It has so many things going on you just have to see how everything goes. You have a transgender going through her change and waiting for surgery who finds out she has a son from a one night stand. Then when she meets him after she lies to him about who she is, finds out he is a prostitute and was abused by his step father. Then the kid freaks out when he finds out that she is a trasgender who isnt accepted by her family. This movie shows how things really are with the transgender community. I never realized how hard it can be until I watched this movie and anyne who says its gross needs to shut the fuck up cause its just as natural as a heterosexual relationship.
ReplyDeleteAfter I watched the movie it made me think about how different people can be with situations presented to them. I come from a family where there is a ton of acceptance so I doesn't make sense to me that people would deny their own flesh and blood because of a life choice they have made. In fact I think its healthier for someone to got through something like that to help finally identify who they are because there lucky enough to figure that out.
ReplyDeleteThere are people who aren't trans gendered who haven't figured out who they are and have a mid life crisis. I know that there are people in my life that I deal with daily with and communicate and interacted with that don't know where they stand in life and while searching they do more harm to themselves while they are experimenting with drugs, or giving into materialization.
So over all I do understand that when someone goes through a gender crisis or life changing event that other people are affected to an extent, but I think that as far as a support group goes it is vital to a persons well being during these times.
Even historically compared to other societies, we are terribly gender-role obsessed in this country. As the film pointed out androgynous individuals have in many places had a revered and special place culturally. The key aspect to the gender identity disorder is that it manifests at such a young age; by the time people are able to perceive a difference in gender, they form an affinity. The problem occurs when their gender perception does not match the physical status of the individual. In order to be healthy and whole, these people have the right to pursue the courses that will allow them to live as fulfilled adults.
ReplyDeleteThe other issue raised by Sara (that I appreciated) is the disparity in difference for a physical female v. a physical male seeking gender reassignment surgery. The basic misogyny in overcharging women and the general unavailability of the equivalent surgical procedures simply shows that even for those that adhere to socially palatable gender roles, we have a long way to go before we achieve a fair and egalitarian society.
In my opinion, the messages brought up in the movie, and during the class discussion after were not all right. I do believe that there are instances where, a person born with both genitalia, and who has had one or the other removed, may lean towards the other gender. For example, a child may be born with both parts, have the penis removed and then, as they grow up, may find themselves having more "mannish" tendencies. But the idea of people who claim they were just born the wrong gender, to me is ridiculous. Society has a way of teaching us that if we don't feel like we fit in we can just change it with a surgery. We all go through awkward years, it's called Jr. High for most of us, but just because a boy's friends are all girls does not mean that he should've been a girl, it just means that all of his friends are girls. If someone wants to have a sex change, that is their choice, but lets just call it for what it is...that it's their choice. God is not to blame.
ReplyDeleteThis is the first transsexual film I've seen in my life. With what now most traditional viewer's stereotype, it must been hard for transsexual people to live through this society. But I suppose we both side have to live through to get use to. If really feel the body you have is not belong to you. Than there's nothing to be shame, it is your body, it will your decision to decide whenever you want to it. Church has no right to decide what other people should to do to their own body.
ReplyDeleteThe child really need parent to be with them, or they will do something which they shouldn't do. Like her son in the film, taking drugs, stealing, and prostitution. That's because he dosen't have someone talk to him since he were little. But at least he got a job for himself at the end, though the job is same sex porn. But at lest its a job, inherit maybe.
The movie's end is good, they accept each other and got what both they want. I always like an good ending. Never like an unhappy ending.
so sorry it's late so if you don't accept it i understand i had to goto a buisness meeting at ups sorry. better trying than doing nothing in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteGreat movie very entertaining and insightful good morals of acceptance and tolerance. this is something everybody should reach out and try to be. it's hard for me to shoot this down personally i don't think it's right to be intolerant to people who differ from you that being said i really liked how the movie put a humerous spin on this serious subject and made it easy going it definetly made me think about the struggles of transgendered people i enjoyed the movie and would definetly watch it again
once again sorry about being late i had to goto work at 6 and just got off
ReplyDeleteThe concept of relativity is still very much in the shadows. It seems that when dialogue breaks down, the battle begins. I get it, nobody wants to be wrong, but it’s not even that, people have to be right in everything we do; at least justified. This disconnect repeats it self over time dating back to well… I believe this is the pretense Socrates was condemned to death. Nobody wants a guy who claims to know nothing, challenging his or her beliefs by simply asking questions. Why do we judge others compared to our own lives? We live in a world with trillions of nuclei battling for the center. This is an overview of what I took away from the class.
ReplyDeleteAs for the last film we watched. I have respect for people brought to this world forced to play a role that was never intended for them. It seems like electricity dressed up as water. I have always had questions about gays and transsexuals, beginning since high school when I first learned the story of john/Joan on Opera. Now don’t get me wrong, I hate the Opera show. But this particular show opened my eyes to the possibilities. People are born all different ways; some with extra fingers and some in the wrong body… How does the old saying go? “I might be weird but so are you.” I wouldn’t have it any other way.
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